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		<title>Comment on The Left Fell into the Climate Morass by Lew Rockwell by Twitted by Lambowolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by Lambowolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Rising Tides: Part 1-The Joker by Arek</title>
		<link>http://www.aviewfromthefence.com/2009/08/09/rising-tides-part-1-the-joker/comment-page-1/#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator>Arek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have tracked the picture creation to some young artist that was trying a new program to convert the image from Time magazine cover to a joker face.  Once created it and posted on the net it  got put up in LA on posters - no specifics on who or why. So no racism intended. 
People see what they want to - its sad they think what they see is fact. 
But on the racism thing I don&#039;t quite get it. If you care to assign race. Obama is just another white president. How can I say this - heresy. Facts - Black father - White mother (who actually raised him). In Hawaii. Went to Harvard. Why does the absent father get all the credit and Obama becomes just a black man. People get to hate because of the color of his skin. I don&#039;t care. What I do care about is his politics and what they will end up costing me and my country. 
The calls of racism are smokescreens. Either on purpose to silence opposition, redirect attention,  or internally clouding the small minds of people that see other people through their ethnic backgrounds. That way they can avoid considering others opinions and ideas and just hate them and consider them small minded. Enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have tracked the picture creation to some young artist that was trying a new program to convert the image from Time magazine cover to a joker face.  Once created it and posted on the net it  got put up in LA on posters &#8211; no specifics on who or why. So no racism intended.<br />
People see what they want to &#8211; its sad they think what they see is fact.<br />
But on the racism thing I don&#8217;t quite get it. If you care to assign race. Obama is just another white president. How can I say this &#8211; heresy. Facts &#8211; Black father &#8211; White mother (who actually raised him). In Hawaii. Went to Harvard. Why does the absent father get all the credit and Obama becomes just a black man. People get to hate because of the color of his skin. I don&#8217;t care. What I do care about is his politics and what they will end up costing me and my country.<br />
The calls of racism are smokescreens. Either on purpose to silence opposition, redirect attention,  or internally clouding the small minds of people that see other people through their ethnic backgrounds. That way they can avoid considering others opinions and ideas and just hate them and consider them small minded. Enjoy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rising Tides: Part 1-The Joker by lambo</title>
		<link>http://www.aviewfromthefence.com/2009/08/09/rising-tides-part-1-the-joker/comment-page-1/#comment-186</link>
		<dc:creator>lambo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian,

Thanks for the comments.

I do wonder if you have attended a Tea Party?  

Well, I have.

There was Tea Party demonstrations across the country around July 4th.  Yes, there was a lot Anti-Obama posters and the Democratic leadership.  I can honestly say that none that I saw I would say were racist. (Albeit, not very flattering either.)

So I will assume what coverage you saw was from the media.  Earlier in the year, I posted three videos involving CNN&#039;s Susan Roesgen.  In one, she covers a liberal protest rally where she is friendly like she is having coffee with her best friend.  Another one, she covered the tea party in Chicago on tax day.  She was very combative with the people who were attending.  The last one, she was filmed by a third party while being chastised by an attendee saying her report to CNN was biased.  

I will concede FOX is no different.  If FOX sends a reporter out to some Liberal event, they will interview the hippie dude who did way too much LSD in his youth.  Hardly, a person that a Liberal would want as their spokesperson.   MSNBC will grab a redneck who probably can&#039;t count to 10.  This is one of the points I was trying to make in the post.

You, yourself conceded that the Joker picture isn&#039;t racist.  However, MSNBC and CNN spent days telling the American Public that it is.

Again, what I am seeing is the Neo-Libs are calling anyone who are Anti-Obama racists.  I see it in the news, blogs and many forums.  Do I think everyone who are Obama supporters are Neo-Libs?  No, I don&#039;t.  

Yes, I will not deny that there are racists in the country who can&#039;t stand we have a black president.  However, I can also say Janeane Garofalo is off base saying that every Tea Party Attendee are as well.

From my point of view, I see no difference between the Neo-Libs calling people racists and the Neo-Cons calling everyone who didn&#039;t support Bush&#039;s policies UnAmerican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments.</p>
<p>I do wonder if you have attended a Tea Party?  </p>
<p>Well, I have.</p>
<p>There was Tea Party demonstrations across the country around July 4th.  Yes, there was a lot Anti-Obama posters and the Democratic leadership.  I can honestly say that none that I saw I would say were racist. (Albeit, not very flattering either.)</p>
<p>So I will assume what coverage you saw was from the media.  Earlier in the year, I posted three videos involving CNN&#8217;s Susan Roesgen.  In one, she covers a liberal protest rally where she is friendly like she is having coffee with her best friend.  Another one, she covered the tea party in Chicago on tax day.  She was very combative with the people who were attending.  The last one, she was filmed by a third party while being chastised by an attendee saying her report to CNN was biased.  </p>
<p>I will concede FOX is no different.  If FOX sends a reporter out to some Liberal event, they will interview the hippie dude who did way too much LSD in his youth.  Hardly, a person that a Liberal would want as their spokesperson.   MSNBC will grab a redneck who probably can&#8217;t count to 10.  This is one of the points I was trying to make in the post.</p>
<p>You, yourself conceded that the Joker picture isn&#8217;t racist.  However, MSNBC and CNN spent days telling the American Public that it is.</p>
<p>Again, what I am seeing is the Neo-Libs are calling anyone who are Anti-Obama racists.  I see it in the news, blogs and many forums.  Do I think everyone who are Obama supporters are Neo-Libs?  No, I don&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>Yes, I will not deny that there are racists in the country who can&#8217;t stand we have a black president.  However, I can also say Janeane Garofalo is off base saying that every Tea Party Attendee are as well.</p>
<p>From my point of view, I see no difference between the Neo-Libs calling people racists and the Neo-Cons calling everyone who didn&#8217;t support Bush&#8217;s policies UnAmerican.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rising Tides: Part 1-The Joker by Brian Webber</title>
		<link>http://www.aviewfromthefence.com/2009/08/09/rising-tides-part-1-the-joker/comment-page-1/#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Webber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and let&#039;s not overlook the underlying racism in the easily debunked Birther conspiracy theory.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Rising Tides: Part 1-The Joker by Brian Webber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Webber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, there&#039;s not much racism at all at the tea parties. Except for the signs comparing Obama to a witch doctor, to Urkle, etc.

Or the ones calling him a Kenyan. Or a monkey.

Dude, if you can&#039;t see the growing and increasingly less overt racism among the opposition, you aren&#039;t looking. I mean yeah, the Joker poster is not a racist image per se, but you can bet that racists love it, and that the person who designed it might be one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, there&#8217;s not much racism at all at the tea parties. Except for the signs comparing Obama to a witch doctor, to Urkle, etc.</p>
<p>Or the ones calling him a Kenyan. Or a monkey.</p>
<p>Dude, if you can&#8217;t see the growing and increasingly less overt racism among the opposition, you aren&#8217;t looking. I mean yeah, the Joker poster is not a racist image per se, but you can bet that racists love it, and that the person who designed it might be one.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wow, The Supreme Court Ruled 8-1 by dedeb</title>
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		<dc:creator>dedeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 23:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read about this too over here. I remember some facts differently so did a little search for the case. from huffingtonpost.com:

The school&#039;s vice principal, Kerry Wilson, took Redding to his office to search her backpack. When nothing was found, Redding was taken to a nurse&#039;s office where she was told by a female administrative assistant and the school nurse to take off her shirt and pants. She then was told to move her bra to the side and to stretch her underwear waistband, exposing her breasts and pelvic area. No pills were found.

I mean, I fully agree it is ridiculous to do something like this to a 13 year old over ibuprofen, but in this case the principal is a bigot and apparently not a pervert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read about this too over here. I remember some facts differently so did a little search for the case. from huffingtonpost.com:</p>
<p>The school&#8217;s vice principal, Kerry Wilson, took Redding to his office to search her backpack. When nothing was found, Redding was taken to a nurse&#8217;s office where she was told by a female administrative assistant and the school nurse to take off her shirt and pants. She then was told to move her bra to the side and to stretch her underwear waistband, exposing her breasts and pelvic area. No pills were found.</p>
<p>I mean, I fully agree it is ridiculous to do something like this to a 13 year old over ibuprofen, but in this case the principal is a bigot and apparently not a pervert.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Just a refresher&#8230; by sketkar</title>
		<link>http://www.aviewfromthefence.com/2009/07/23/just-a-refresher/comment-page-1/#comment-182</link>
		<dc:creator>sketkar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 01:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not how it happens... 

a lobbyists buys a politician who pays someone to write up a proposal (probably somewhere in China) that will benefit both the lobbyist and the bought politician.  This proposal is either insert secretly into another existing bill i.e pork or pushed through as a bill on it&#039;s own without ever reading it or debating it.  This also holds true when the President (Executive branch) wants to make law, yes make law.  Most of these bills don&#039;t sound like your small town folk singer, they are wordy and vague and due to all the pork they are fed, usually very obese and end up being useless.  The lucky few that do make it through still do have be signed by the President and become law.   Nowhere in this process is the individual citizen considered or cared about.  Oh, and the new law will end up making things worse, not better.

That&#039;s how it really happens... you need to stop watching these cartoons, they are all fictional.  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not how it happens&#8230; </p>
<p>a lobbyists buys a politician who pays someone to write up a proposal (probably somewhere in China) that will benefit both the lobbyist and the bought politician.  This proposal is either insert secretly into another existing bill i.e pork or pushed through as a bill on it&#8217;s own without ever reading it or debating it.  This also holds true when the President (Executive branch) wants to make law, yes make law.  Most of these bills don&#8217;t sound like your small town folk singer, they are wordy and vague and due to all the pork they are fed, usually very obese and end up being useless.  The lucky few that do make it through still do have be signed by the President and become law.   Nowhere in this process is the individual citizen considered or cared about.  Oh, and the new law will end up making things worse, not better.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s how it really happens&#8230; you need to stop watching these cartoons, they are all fictional.  <img src='http://www.aviewfromthefence.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Wow, The Supreme Court Ruled 8-1 by lambo</title>
		<link>http://www.aviewfromthefence.com/2009/06/25/wow-the-supreme-court-ruled-8-1/comment-page-1/#comment-177</link>
		<dc:creator>lambo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The court has ruled in the past that minors are not granted full rights under the Constitution.  A high school principal can censor the school&#039;s student run newspaper.  

It is tricky grounds...  It really does fall unto what the situation is and if there are established laws already.  Also, how the parents are involved.  I just feel that a school is going to this extreme, the parent&#039;s need to be notified prior of the search.  ALSO, the school official needs to be a woman for female students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The court has ruled in the past that minors are not granted full rights under the Constitution.  A high school principal can censor the school&#8217;s student run newspaper.  </p>
<p>It is tricky grounds&#8230;  It really does fall unto what the situation is and if there are established laws already.  Also, how the parents are involved.  I just feel that a school is going to this extreme, the parent&#8217;s need to be notified prior of the search.  ALSO, the school official needs to be a woman for female students.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wow, The Supreme Court Ruled 8-1 by sketkar</title>
		<link>http://www.aviewfromthefence.com/2009/06/25/wow-the-supreme-court-ruled-8-1/comment-page-1/#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>sketkar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm... Clarence Thomas voting in favor of strip searching adolescence girls, sounds about right.  What a perv.

On a serious note... and this may sound really stupid, does the Constitution apply to minors?  I mean they can&#039;t vote, don&#039;t taxes, and are under full protection of their parent(s).  I mean, I don&#039;t remember reading anything in the constitution (yes, I&#039;ve read it) about having to be of certain age.  I&#039;m just curious, the answer is probably obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; Clarence Thomas voting in favor of strip searching adolescence girls, sounds about right.  What a perv.</p>
<p>On a serious note&#8230; and this may sound really stupid, does the Constitution apply to minors?  I mean they can&#8217;t vote, don&#8217;t taxes, and are under full protection of their parent(s).  I mean, I don&#8217;t remember reading anything in the constitution (yes, I&#8217;ve read it) about having to be of certain age.  I&#8217;m just curious, the answer is probably obvious.</p>
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		<title>Comment on HR 1207 Has 222 Cosponsors!  A Majority! by Ragman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ragman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is really amazing news.  I can&#039;t wait to hear what they find.  My only fear is that it is going to be so bad that it really rattles the foundations of our country.  But then again...maybe a good rattling is what we need to wake us back up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is really amazing news.  I can&#8217;t wait to hear what they find.  My only fear is that it is going to be so bad that it really rattles the foundations of our country.  But then again&#8230;maybe a good rattling is what we need to wake us back up.</p>
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